2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by BFBSM » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:17 pm

karen@hansard.org wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm
Hello. I happened on this site as I research my father's (Ronald de la Ronde) travels through Europe during the war. My father served with the 2nd Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment of the RCA (Montreal division). Not sure which battery. He enlisted in July 1941 and arrived in England in September 1941. Do you know how I might find information on the regiment's routes through Europe?

Thank you.
Karen,

The Regiment War Diaries are available at the Heritage Canadiana website https://heritage.canadiana.ca/. The Roll numbers to search are:

T-16382 1611 14481, 14482 2nd Heavy AA Regiment RCA 1941/08-1943/09; 1943/10-1944/11
T-16383 1627 14882, 14883 2nd Heavy AA Regiment RCA 1943/10-1944/11; 1944/12-1945/03
T-16384 1664 14483, 14484 2nd Heavy AA Regiment RCA 1944/12-1945/03; 1945/04-1945/09; 1st Heavy AA Regiment RCA 1941/08; 8th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1939/09-1940/05; 11th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1939/09-1940/05
T-16385 1560 14484 2nd Heavy AA Regiment RCA 1945/04-145/09; 1st Heavy AA Battery RCA 1941/08; 8th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1939/09-1940/05; 11th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1939/09-1940/05
T-16386 1929 14484, 14485 2nd Heavy AA Regiment RCA 1945/04-145/09; 1st Heavy AA Battery RCA 1941/08; 8th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1939/09-1940/05; 11th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1939/09-1940/05; 14th Heavy AA Battery RCA 1940/08-1943/11

In the search box, on the page link shown above, enter the numbers beginning with T-, the result will be a list of documents, select the War Diaries option, and you will be taken to the relevant images.

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by Temujin » Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:57 am

karen@hansard.org wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm
Hello. I happened on this site as I research my father's (Ronald de la Ronde) travels through Europe during the war. My father served with the 2nd Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment of the RCA (Montreal division). Not sure which battery. He enlisted in July 1941 and arrived in England in September 1941. Do you know how I might find information on the regiment's routes through Europe?

Thank you.
Karen, BSBSM has given you information to look for information for yourself…….but in the mean time,I’ll try and find more Norminal Rolls on the Regiments shipment to England to Canada.

I’ve found them and the ship they are on now, I’m going thru and adjusting them now (mainly for quality of reading, I can adjust the typing on some of the documents that are HARD to read, so they are clearer)………as soon as I have that done, I’ll post that information up and post a link so you can look at it. So far I have NOT spotted his name, but will look more closely when I have the adjustments finished.

As for “where they went and when”, th links BSBSM have given you will give you most of that information BUT, its a slow slog, as the files do not have a search engine, so you have to go “page by page” to find the right files…….look for the WAR DIARIES pages (they are spread thru these files)…..they will give you the location of the Regiment each day of the war and what they were doing.

On Question, as your father last name is “de la Ronde”……..would you know if he went by that “full last name” or did he shorten it in the records, eg “La Ronde or LaRonde or Ronde”???

Cheers, and I’m working on it

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by Temujin » Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:18 am

Karen, here’s a link to the Nominal Roll of the Regiment on Embarkation to England

I did NOT spot your fathers name in them. BUT…..I noticed the 14th Heavy Battery was not on the list (8th, 11th and Regimental HQ, Sigs etc)

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by Temujin » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:57 am

karen@hansard.org wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:53 pm
Hello. I happened on this site as I research my father's (Ronald de la Ronde) travels through Europe during the war. My father served with the 2nd Heavy Anti-Aircraft Regiment of the RCA (Montreal division). Not sure which battery. He enlisted in July 1941 and arrived in England in September 1941. Do you know how I might find information on the regiment's routes through Europe?

Thank you.
Karen, can I ask how you know he served with this unit? I have gone thru more than a year of war diaries (July 1941 to Sept 1942, and I haven’t spotted his name at all on any of the posting etc. Have you his military records, and do you know his Regimental Number (service number)?

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by karen@hansard.org » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:03 pm

thank you so much Temujin and BSBSM. I'll look through the information you provided. I'll see what other information I can dig up such as regimental number etc. While he signed up with the Montreal division, he was from St. Andrew's East, Quebec. Thanks again.

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by karen@hansard.org » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:25 pm

Temujin- I misread one of your questions, but my father recently mentioned that that was the regiment he was in. He would not have gone by any name other than 'de la Ronde. Thanks!

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by Temujin » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:31 pm

karen@hansard.org wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:25 pm
Temujin- I misread one of your questions, but my father recently mentioned that that was the regiment he was in. He would not have gone by any name other than 'de la Ronde. Thanks!
Thank you Karen for answering my questions, I’ll keep looking to seek what I can find.

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by Temujin » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:39 pm

Karen, finally, I found hin, he was with:

1st Heavy AA Battery, 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regt - Final Nominal Roll


His Regimental Number was D118458
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More info…….once I found out that they spelled his last name as Delaronde, then I’m able to find more. Here’s his return to Canada on the French Liner Ile de France
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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by karen@hansard.org » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:33 pm

temujin, thank you so so much. I find this fascinating. Hope to find more info. That's also his buddy, George Dewitt, listed below him in the nominal role. I will be visiting my father in January and hope to probe a little more, if he's up to it. Cheers!

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Re: 2nd Heavy Anti Aircraft Regiment, RCA - Nominal Roll - 17 Sep 1941

Post by Temujin » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:19 pm

karen@hansard.org wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:33 pm
temujin, thank you so so much. I find this fascinating. Hope to find more info. That's also his buddy, George Dewitt, listed below him in the nominal role. I will be visiting my father in January and hope to probe a little more, if he's up to it. Cheers!
Your welcome Karen, it you want you CAN order his military records. As he is still alive, he would have to sign the documentation to request them. I might suggest that if you want to know more, I would do it now if possible………when he passes away, his records then will be “locked” an only opened after 20 years after his passing.

My own Uncle, who is still with us at 98, I’m trying to see if my cousins will order his military records for the same reason. He served with the Calgary Highlanders and was wounded twice during the war.

If you wish to peruse this, let me know and I can give you the links to the proper paperwork that you can fill out, and the one page “permission” for him to sign to give you permission to request his records.

Just let me know

Cheers

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