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H23691

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 4:12 pm
by Pierre-Aldric
Hi everyone,
One of my friend found a gas respirator bag but the ID number (H23691) is very curious because in the record book of matching numbers, there is nothing on it... could you please help me to determine of this number is real, and if yes of which unit ? Thx in advance.
Have a nice day all !

Re: H23691

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:10 pm
by klambie
Assume you are referring to the Clive Law 'Regimental Numbers' reference that shows a gap in assigned numbers from H22000 to H25000.

I have a RWR nominal roll that has around forty H22 and H23 numbers (but no H24s) that served with them at some point. So they were assigned. Looking at one example of each who were KIA:

H22492 Rfn GR Bell - originally enlisted with 10DD (General List) (Mar 44 enlistment)
H23053 Rfn AM Salmi - originally enlisted with 10DD (General List) (Jun 44 enlistment)

Re: H23691

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 7:48 pm
by Temujin
klambie wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 5:10 pm
Assume you are referring to the Clive Law 'Regimental Numbers' reference that shows a gap in assigned numbers from H22000 to H25000.

I have a RWR nominal roll that has around forty H22 and H23 numbers (but no H24s) that served with them at some point. So they were assigned. Looking at one example of each who were KIA:

H22492 Rfn GR Bell - originally enlisted with 10DD (General List) (Mar 44 enlistment)
H23053 Rfn AM Salmi - originally enlisted with 10DD (General List) (Jun 44 enlistment)
I just looked and in Clive Laws book it list No 10 DD (Personnel Selection Board) as assigned the numbers 22000 to 24000 (page 44 of his book)…….but this doesn’t help us find the man (or his unit), it just tells us he enlisted Manitoba or Northern Ontario

Re: H23691

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:47 pm
by klambie
Makes sense, I think we have determined in the past that you have a later edition of Law.

Re: H23691

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:44 am
by Temujin
klambie wrote:
Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:47 pm
Makes sense, I think we have determined in the past that you have a later edition of Law.
That’s probably true. I have a copy of the ‘revised second edition’. I remember when I ordered it from Clive, I waited weeks and it didn’t arrive, phone Clive and he had another delivered to me “post haste” (I think thru Purolator, I can’t quite remember). Excellent man and I have many of his books


I’ve been trying hard to find out if I can find out “who” was the owner of H23691. As it was Manitoba, I’ve been going thru the various units of the No 10 Military District……and have gotten close (in numbers) but nothing has popped up yet. So far I’ve reviewed the Nominal Rolls of, PPCLI, Queens Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada, 5th General Hospital, Winnipeg Grenadiers, 12th Field Company RCE, 71st Field Battery RCA, 11th Medium Battery RCA, Fort Gary Horse, 1st Corps Field Park Company RCE and nothing so far. I don’t have ALL the units of No 10 Military Districts nominal rolls though.

I also tried Newspaper.com…..but they only put Regimental Numbers in the newspapers at the very beginning of the war……after that just Rank and Names (and parents names sometimes)

This one really is a “needle in a haystack situation”


Cheers

Re: H23691

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:10 pm
by Pierre-Aldric
Thank you for all your hard work! It already seemed strange to me, but on the other hand it reassures me that I can't find it in my documentation, which still seems reliable!...
More in the next issue!
Cheers