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Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:48 pm
by Temujin
Took a look at everything again (in case I missed something) and it “seems” that DND did give them the name etc, as you said.

They may have gotten his names of the embarkation rolls......I can’t find which ship or those rolls.

So, hopefully they’ll have luck posting the info in newspapers.....unless some other clue come’s up

Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:57 pm
by rrmerlin44
Phil wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Temujin wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:24 pm
YES, this isn’t making sense. How do they know his Name and Rank and regiment and which day he embarked.

I would like to see where they found this info.....it then may help.
I suspect they just searched for J.I. Andrews and returned the rank and embarkation date of the first record.
he said he reached out to the Ministry of National Defence and eventually received a message over email.

I wrote to the Minister of Defence I provided him the ID number and name.

It read in part, “We were able to identify the individual as Acting Corporal J.I. Andrews of the Dufferin and Haldimand Rifles, who embarked at Halifax on Feb. 25, 1945.”

Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:47 pm
by Phil
rrmerlin44 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:57 pm
he said he reached out to the Ministry of National Defence and eventually received a message over email.

I wrote to the Minister of Defence I provided him the ID number and name.

It read in part, “We were able to identify the individual as Acting Corporal J.I. Andrews of the Dufferin and Haldimand Rifles, who embarked at Halifax on Feb. 25, 1945.”
Yes, it would be interesting to know if they confirmed that Service Number or not.

On another side of things, I only found two J.I. Andrews buried in Canada and neither seem to fit (one is a woman, the other born in 1878).

Jennie I. Henning Andrews
John Irwin Andrews (B. Quebec, 1878)

Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:30 pm
by Phil
Phil wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:54 pm
I did find a Lte-Col. J. I. Andrews in the armoured corps,
These units were closely followed by the first wave of tanks of the 14th Canadian Army Tank Battalion (Calgary Regiment) commanded by Lt-Col. J.I. Andrews.
This J.I. Andrews of the 14th Canadian Army Tank Battalion I believe turns out to be JOHN GILBY ANDREWS or Lieutenant Colonel "Johnny" Andrews who was killed in action at Dieppe.

https://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/remembra ... il/2145060

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/m ... mber=43394&

Son of Lt.-Col. Warren Allan Andrews, V.R.D., and Nettie Marian Gilby Andrews, of St. Thomas, Ontario, Canada; husband of Eleanor Catherine Andrews, of Birkdale, Southport, Lancashire - Dieppe casualty

Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:37 pm
by Phil
Also while looking through the records of the lost, a service number just 8 digits off came up,

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/m ... mber=29447&

Were service numbers assigned consecutively? If so, this is another item that doesn't add up, if J.I. Andrews was B606688 as we suspect, Joseph Raincourt here was lost in 1942 and his service number was B606680, no way J. I. Andrews embarked in 1945 if that's his service number and they were given out consecutively.

Update: I see now the suspected Regiment Number is B606638, still very close.

Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:10 pm
by klambie
B606??? is a NRMA number, so not eligible for overseas service until late 44. Most didn't go until early 45 or later, so a Feb 45 embarkation fits Andrews. Rancourt is buried in Ontario, so he did not die overseas, consistent with another NRMA man in 1942.

Re: Acting Corporal J. I. Andrews

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:14 pm
by Phil
klambie wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:10 pm
B606??? is a NRMA number, so not eligible for overseas service until late 44. Most didn't go until early 45 or later, so a Feb 45 embarkation fits Andrews. Rancourt is buried in Ontario, so he did not die overseas, consistent with another NRMA man in 1942.
Thanks, that would explain it.